Saturday, September 21, 2013

self sacrifice for the collective

Reid (14,077) Says: 

the problem is that the ideas lead to the real outcomes
Well said OT. Many people haven’t yet grasped the reality that thoughts are things. James Allen has written a brilliant treatise on this.
Man is made or unmade by himself; in the armory of thought he forges the weapons by which he destroys himself. He also fashions the tools with which he builds for himself heavenly mansions of joy and strength and peace. By the right choice and true application of thought, man ascends to the Divine Perfection; by the abuse and wrong application of thought, he descends below the level of the beast. Between these two extremes are all the grades of character, and man is their maker and master.
They don’t seem to have a concept of real human nature and what people really want.
Personally I’ve always believed communists have done what they have done purposefully and deliberately with full knowledge and aforethought in the total understanding that what they were doing was designed not to free but to enslave.
I don’t believe your average leftist thinks that but I do believe the people in highest echelons such as those who control organisations like the Fabians know exactly that and do exactly that and for exactly that reason. And the average leftist is simply a fool who gets dragged down into the mire of their poison because they haven’t yet learned how to separate reason from emotion and they get carried away with the duplicitous lie that humanity’s path is best served by collective sacrifice. Their mistake lies in the fact that this in fact is quite true, provided the collective sacrifice is led and conducted in the name of all that is good and humane, but it’s not, under socialism, because the lie is that its done in the name of whatever their leaders decide is best for them and their own close circle of followers and its then sold in the disguise of all that is good and humane. And anyone who knows the first thing about human nature is that you don’t look to mankind for wisdom, you look elsewhere, because mankind is always venal, cruel, vindictive and ruthless and you only have to look at history to establish the truth of that.
But those simple and apparent facts have never stopped fools from having their ears tickled before and I don’t expect it to stop anytime soon, but what appalls me is that at this time in history when we have more information available to us than ever before simply there for the taking, and yet still we have tremendous numbers of people lining themselves up for their own sacrifice by voting like turkeys, for their own thanksgiving.

Scott (1,457) Says: 

The problem in North Korea is communism and atheism. You cannot separate the two. It’s what happens when atheists run the show. They don’t believe they will be accountable in this life or the next. They do not accept any limits on their power. Given the rise of atheism in this country, and this blog is a good example, one can only shudder if atheism became our nations official religion.
Atheism or Islam? Not much of a choice is it?
Kea (7,669) Says: 
Scott, no the problem is ideological zealots like you. Who do you think you are demanding that your absurd cult be imposed on people by central government ? The only difference between the society you want and North Korea is in the ideology not in the methods used.
If we are to move forward and evolve, we need to be considerably less tolerant of people like yourself. Your belief in the supernatural is not harmless and not a personal issue. Religion has caused more suffering than socialism through out history.
mikenmild (7,115) Says: 
Beware of all zealotry – religious, political or social. I tend to mistrust greatly those who are most certain that their particularly ideology is best for others.
Kea (7,669) Says: 
mikenmild, There is a difference between being a passionate advocate for something and being a zealot. The difference is a zealot will maintain a position regardless of the evidence or logic. Being “mild” on important issues is nothing at all to be proud of. It has allowed some of the greatest tragedies in human history. No wrong can exist with those who allow it through indifference.
Scott (1,458) Says: 
Kea-you talk rubbish. Christianity begets a civilization that has lasted millenia. Atheism always begets hell on earth that lasts a few decades before the people vomit it out. The leaders of North Korea are atheists. That’s why they are so horrible to the people.
Atheism has caused more suffering than anything else.
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“None are so hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free. The truth has been kept from the depth of their minds by masters who rule them with lies. They feed them on falsehoods till wrong looks like right in their eyes.”
– Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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