Multi culture rights and wrongs

Radegunda
on September 19, 2013 at 2:43 am said:
Multiculturalism is the battering ram. It tells Westerners that we must not have any pride in our historic culture or any inclination to defend it. It says that our culture is defective and needs an infusion of large numbers of people who insist on keeping their native cultures.

Multiculturalism commands us to be accommodating when Muslims insist on having public footbaths, time off for prayers, a “right” to be veiled, a “right” to deny taxi service to blind people with guide dogs, a “right” to build huge mosques in residential neighborhoods, and/or to take over public sidewalks for collective prayer, and to broadcast the muezzin’s call, etc.

Multiculturalism tells us that “tolerance” requires us to censor our speech, lest Muslims be offended. It paves the way for aggressive da’wa and the gradual imposition of Islamic norms on everyone else.

Tony Blair said he wanted to “rub the right’s noses in diversity.” The result is that parts of London and other British cities (not to mention French) are turning into zones where infidels are commanded to adhere to sharia rules, and all of England is a place where Muslims are granted indulgence to be hateful and aggressive while the authorities crack down hard on critics of Islam.

Multiculturalists may not think they’re clearing the path for an Islamic cultural conquest, but they are.
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Slavonian
on September 19, 2013 at 5:46 am said:
“Are you sure multiculturalism – the notion that all people of all backgrounds are equal under the one law of the land – is a problem?

You are describing a part of “Liberté – égalité – fraternité, the foundation of European political culture. It says that all people are “égal,” meaning equal, including women.
In contrast, multiculturalism says that all cultures are equal. No matter that some of the cultural differences impact destructively upon the equality of the better half of the human species – women, as is the case with the islamic culture steeped in its all pervasive religion/ideology. The Qur’an and its prophet proclaim in no uncertain terms that women are inferior to men. The same religion/ideology/culture holds all other religions, ideologies, and cultures as inferior to itself.
For that reason, cultures cannot be treated as equal under the law which bases on the three aforementioned principles, one of which is Equality. Islam recognizes neither of these principles. Multiculturalism clearly clashes with our duty, as free men, to promote the aforementioned principles. Therefore, multiculturalism is definitely wrong in its main postulate.
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Beach Bum
on September 19, 2013 at 2:46 pm said:
If multiculturalism applied equally to all individuals, you might have a point. It does not. It is only applied towards white people.
If multiculturalism applied equally to all sexes (multiculturalism defines at least three), you might have a point. It does not, it mostly applies to white males.
If multiculturalism applied equally to all cultures, you might have a point. It does not, it is only critical of cultures built by majorities of white people.
If multiculturalism applied equally to all religions, you might have a point. It does not, it clearly favors Islam, and puts Christianity at the bottom of the list (guess why…).
If multiculturalism applied equally to all ideologies, you might have a point. It does not, it clearly favors socialistic corporatism.
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Dymphna
on September 19, 2013 at 3:25 pm said:
Bravo, Beach Bum.

A detailed explanation of why the multi-culti politically correct utopianism of the Left is in reality a morally bankrupt ideology that is designed to kill the west…and then the ‘victors’ will wage internecine warfare to their mutually assured destruction.

I am sick of these interesting times. Oh to return to boring times…
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Marten Gantelius
on September 19, 2013 at 8:07 pm said:
Exactly, Beach Bum. The word “Multiculturalism” is a fairly new “academic” invention – some sources say that it was invented in Canada in the early 70ies. I didn’t hear it in Sweden before the early 90ies. Just as the term “Islamophobia”, it is used politically to manipulate people and distract them from what’s going on.

Immigrants with a will to assimilate have never been a big problem anywhere in the western world throughout centuries. Xenophobia is not the problem – Islam is! The muslims don’t WANT to assimilate – they are violent invaders and have been so for 1400 years. So far they are doing good – both in Norway and in Sweden.
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Chiu ChunLing
on September 19, 2013 at 10:11 pm said:
More particularly, the harm of multiculturalism only applies to denigration of one particular culture, that of Western Civilization. It really doesn’t matter how you depart from the tenets of individual freedom and personal responsibility, as long as you do so vigorously enough you will be considered “multicultural”.
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Radegunda on September 19, 2013 at 5:36 pm said:
I’ve never seen multiculturalism defined as “the notion that all people of all backgrounds are equal under the one law of the land.”

Culture is not simply your “background”; it’s the way you conduct your life now. And not just you as an individual; the idea that an individual or a family can have its own “culture” surrounded by a dozen other “cultures” in a city block is nonsense. Culture involves the ways that large groups of people interact and maintain cohesiveness and identity. Culture sustains society.

Law is part of culture, or at least a product of culture. That’s why “multiculturalism” doesn’t put a high premium on “the one law of the land.” Instead, it demands that the law of the land be bent to accommodate the “cultural” demands of newcomers who dislike the law of the land; it even allows them to have their own law courts and develop parallel societies that want nothing to do with the larger society except to take the benefits it offers, or force it to be more like the parallel society.

Equality under the one law of the land has virtually nothing to do with multiculturalism.
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from another thread but sort of fits here
Dalegor on September 18, 2013 at 5:58 pm said:
As ol’ good Stefan Kisielewski once said: socialism heroically overcomes difficulties unknown in any other system. Would there be any reason to put out the fire, if you didn’t set your home aflame?
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Arvid (pursvensk) on September 19, 2013 at 1:37 am said:
Sweden for all of us     a petition to sign

Take the debate for a Sweden where diversity is strength.
[Orwell could not have formulated this claim better.]

But what’s this – what happens? – number of signatories is today

September 19 19.579 persons and the tendency is decelerating.

There must be a lot more of functional idiots in New Sweden believing
in harmonious coexisting with from MENA imported Mussulmans.
Hallo, all quislings – step forward, pick up your pen and sign.
Sure you know what you engage in.
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Kalle i Bredäng on September 19, 2013 at 7:55 am said:
Who cares if Sweden in fifty years time is the country of immigrant people with different cultural backgrounds. We, who oppose the madness in the present will then all be dea. Let old Swedish ideals of discussing and reaching amicable settlements, of trying to understand the wiews of the counterparty, of compromising, of being responsible, of showing decency, honesty, helpfulness, neighborliness, become obliterated

Instead we have got a new country dominated by honor morality, oppression of women and corruption, where the cheekiest and the stronger wins. Then we will be a second Syria with all its conflicts between different communities.

Let’s bury old Sweden and all old red buildings with white trim can be painted green. Then the remaining old Swedes finally will understand the fate of the American Indians.

A wonderful future and the true wet dream of the ruling seven-party-alliance.
May they all rot in hell after having been hanged as traitors to the old country.
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